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31/10/04 - Elections américaines - Comment Ossama Ben Laden s'est échappé de Tora Bora il y a trois ans ? - How Osama bin Laden got away three years ago...



Did U.S. mistakes let bin Laden escape from Afghanistan 3 years ago?
Knight Ridder 30/10/04

"...Knight Ridder reporters Barry Schlachter of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram and Jonathan S. Landay and photographers Carl Juste and Peter Andrew Bosch of The Miami Herald were at Tora Bora during the battle, and photographer David Gilkey of the Detroit Free Press and reporter Drew Brown traveled there a year later, interviewed Afghan fighters, retraced al-Qaida escape routes and talked to Pakistani intelligence officers who were tracking al Qaida.

Their reporting found that Franks and other top officials ignored warnings from their own and allied military and intelligence officers that the combination of precision bombing, special operations forces and Afghan forces that had driven the Taliban from northern Afghanistan might not work in the heartland of the country's dominant Pashtun tribe.

While more than 1,200 U.S. Marines sat at an abandoned air base in the desert 80 miles away, Franks and other commanders relied on three Afghan warlords and a small number of American, British and Australian special forces to stop al-Qaida and Taliban fighters from escaping across the mountains into Pakistan.

"We did rely heavily on Afghans because they knew Tora Bora . . . ," Franks wrote.

Military and intelligence officials had warned Franks and others that the two main Afghan commanders, Hazrat Ali and Haji Zaman, couldn't be trusted, and they proved to be correct. They were slow to move their troops into place and didn't attack until four days after American planes began bombing - leaving time for al-Qaida leaders to escape and leaving behind a rear guard of Arab, Chechen and Uzbek fighters.

"Ali and Zaman both assured our people that they had forces in blocking positions on the Spin Ghar (mountains) when there were, in fact, no people there," said a U.S. military official who played a key role in the campaign. "So besides taking Afghans at their word, we had no plans to bring up sufficient forces to make up for perfidy."

U.S. reconnaissance photos showed what appeared to be campfires at high altitudes along the trails across the mountains into Pakistan. The Afghans said the fires belonged to sheep herders. Instead, "they were exfiltrators, pure and simple," said an American military official.

Zaman and Ali began trying to negotiate an al-Qaida surrender even before they began their ground attack. Then, on the second day of the attack, Zaman declared a cease-fire. Ali and a third commander, Haji Zahir, who joined the attack at the last minute, resumed fighting after a few hours, and the U.S. bombing never stopped. But Zaman left open an escape route through the Waziri Tangi valley.

U.S. intelligence analysts estimated that 1,000 to 1,100 al-Qaida fighters, along with some of the group's top leaders, escaped the American dragnet at Tora Bora.

A Pakistani official later told Knight Ridder that intelligence reports suggested that some 4,000 al-Qaida members escaped and that 50 to 80 top leaders paid Zaman or Ali as much as $40,000 apiece for safe passage out of Tora Bora."


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On Kerry, Bush and bin Laden
Asia Times 26/10/04

"...The Tora Bora operation failed for two reasons. First, the warlords and the narcotics barons played a double game. While ostensibly helping the US forces, they kept bin Laden and his fighters informed of the US military movements. Second, Pakistan, on which too the US depended for sealing off its border with Afghanistan to prevent the escape of bin Laden and other jihadi terrorists into Pakistani territory, quietly let them pass.

In fact, bin Laden, who was incapacitated by a shrapnel injury at Tora Bora, was shifted to the Binori madrassa in Karachi, where he was under treatment until August 2002. Since then he has disappeared. He was keeping in touch with his followers through video and audio messages until this April. Since then, he has been observing even electronic silence..."

Inside story of the hunt for Bin Laden
Guardian 23/08/03

"...But a Guardian inquiry has revealed that there are others. Experts who have been following the attempts of the Pakistanis and the US to find the al-Qaida leader have suggested that:

· The Pakistani president, General Pervez Musharraf, struck a deal with the US not to seize Bin Laden after the Afghan war for fear of inciting trouble in his own country;

· The al-Qaida leader is being protected by a three elaborate security rings which stretch 120 miles in diameter; and

· The Pakistani special forces looking for him are no closer than they were a year ago..."

How al Qaeda slipped away
NeesWeek/The Bulletin 14/08/02

"...Some Afghans now claim that Qaeda leaders paid off another (supposedly pro-American) warlord to allow safe passage. Others blame American forces: the B-52s, they say, dropped their 2,000-pound ordnance on the wrong escape route. Still others, including Ali, claim that mysterious black helicopters swept in, flying low over the mountains at night, and scooped up Al Qaeda’s top leaders. (Pentagon sources suggest the choppers were theirs, dropping or plucking up Special Forces.) What is not in dispute is that by mid-December, 1,000 or more Qaeda operatives, including most of the chief planners and almost certainly Osama bin Laden himself, had managed to escape. Efforts to capture them since then had one notable success – the capture of key operative Abu Zubaydah in the Pakistani city of Faisalabad in late March. But most of the top echelon and even rank-and-file fighters are still on the loose..."

How Osama bin Laden got away
CS Monitor 04/03/02

"In retrospect, it becomes clear that the battle's underlying story is of how scant intelligence, poorly chosen allies, and dubious military tactics fumbled a golden opportunity to capture bin Laden as well as many senior Al Qaeda commanders..."

"...And on Nov 29, Vice President Dick Cheney told ABC's "Primetime Live" that, according to the reports that were coming in, bin Laden was in Tora Bora."I think he was equipped to go to ground there," Mr. Cheney said. "He's got what he believes to be a fairly secure facility. He's got caves underground; it's an area he's familiar with."..."

"...Between two and four days later, somewhere between Nov. 28 to Nov. 30 - according to detailed interviews with Arabs and Afghans in eastern Afghanistan afterward - the world's most-wanted man escaped the world's most-powerful military machine, walking - with four of his loyalists - in the direction of Pakistan..."

"...Pir Baksh Bardiwal, the intelligence chief for the Eastern Shura, which controls eastern Afghanistan, says he was astounded that Pentagon planners didn't consider the most obvious exit routes and put down light US infantry to block them.

"The border with Pakistan was the key, but no one paid any attention to it," he said, leaning back in his swivel chair with a short list of the Al Qaeda fighters who were later taken prisoner. "And there were plenty of landing areas for helicopters, had the Americans acted decisively. Al Qaeda escaped right out from under their feet."

The intelligence chief contends that several thousand Pakistani troops who had been placed along the border about Dec. 10 never did their job, nor could they have been expected to, given that the exit routes were not being blocked inside Afghanistan."...

"...Meanwhile, back in Jalalabad, the Afghan warlords enlisted by the US to attack Tora Bora were also cutting deals to help the Al Qaeda fighters escape.

In the shoddy lobby of the Spin Ghar Hotel in downtown Jalalabad on Dec. 3, Haji Hayat Ullah - a member of the Eastern Shura who, according to both Afghan and Pakistani sources had long ties to bin Laden - asked for the "safe passage" for three of his Arab friends.

After a 20-minute discussion with Commander Ali, which was overheard by the Monitor in the empty hotel lobby, a deal was struck for the safe passage of the three Al Qaeda members..."

"...The battle was joined, but anything approaching a "siege" of Tora Bora never materialized. Ghamsharik says today that he offered the US military the use his forces in a "siege of Tora Bora," but that the US opted in favor of his rival, Hazret Ali..."

"..."I paid him 300,000 Pakistani rupees [$5,000] and gave him a satellite phone to keep us informed," says Mohammed Musa, an Ali deputy, who says Ali had firmly "trusted" Khel.

"Our problem was that the Arabs had paid him more, and so Ilyas Khel just showed the Arabs the way out of the country into Pakistan," Mr. Musa adds.

Afghan fighters from villages on the border confirmed in interviews last week in Jalalabad that they had later been engaged in firefights with Khel's fighters, who they said were "firing cover for escaping Al Qaeda."..."

Former minister says fugitive Taliban leaders living life of luxury in Pakistan
Guardian 24/12/01

"Most Taliban leaders have escaped the American dragnet and remain free because the Afghan and Pakistani authorities lack the political will to arrest them, it was claimed yesterday..."

"...Secret deals with tribal leaders and Northern Alliance commanders appear to have paved an escape route for Taliban leaders ahead of US special forces.

Some disappeared without trace but others are so confident of not being picked up that they have made little effort to cover their tracks, said Mullah Almaj Khaksar, a founding Taliban member who served as deputy interior minister in the fundamentalist Islamic regime..."


Ce qu'en disent les généraux américains,
   What are saying american generals


War of Words
By TOMMY FRANKS
New York Times 19/10/04

"According to Mr. Kerry, we "outsourced" the job to Afghan warlords. As commander of the allied forces in the Middle East, I was responsible for the operation at Tora Bora, and I can tell you that the senator's understanding of events doesn't square with reality.

First, take Mr. Kerry's contention that we "had an opportunity to capture or kill Osama bin Laden" and that "we had him surrounded." We don't know to this day whether Mr. bin Laden was at Tora Bora in December 2001. Some intelligence sources said he was; others indicated he was in Pakistan at the time; still others suggested he was in Kashmir. Tora Bora was teeming with Taliban and Qaeda operatives, many of whom were killed or captured, but Mr. bin Laden was never within our grasp.

Second, we did not "outsource" military action. We did rely heavily on Afghans because they knew Tora Bora, a mountainous, geographically difficult region on the border of Afghanistan and Pakistan. It is where Afghan mujahedeen holed up for years, keeping alive their resistance to the Soviet Union. Killing and capturing Taliban and Qaeda fighters was best done by the Afghan fighters who already knew the caves and tunnels.

Third, the Afghans weren't left to do the job alone. Special forces from the United States and several other countries were there, providing tactical leadership and calling in air strikes. Pakistani troops also provided significant help - as many as 100,000 sealed the border and rounded up hundreds of Qaeda and Taliban fighters..."


La vérité sur l’Irak, l'Afghanistan et la guerre contre le terrorisme : entretien avec le général Michael DeLong
CheckPoint 26/09/04

"...Et ce qu’il se passait à l’époque, lorsque ben Laden était dans les caves de Tora Bora, c’est qu’il s’agissait d’une zone tribale pleine de civils. Il était impossible d’y aller avec des soldats de n’importe quelle armée – et spécialement pour nous – parce qu’il aurait fallu les affronter pour atteindre ben Laden. Que nous ayons pu l’avoir reste à démontrer. C’était une tribu sur la frontière, et les seuls types acceptés dans le secteur étaient les soldats de l’armée pakistanaise. Et l’on sait combien il est difficile de garder une frontière – prenez par exemple le Texas, le Nouveau Mexique et l’Arizona.

Nous n’avons pas tué de civils sans nécessité à Tora Bora. Nous savons de par nos multiples sources de renseignements que nous avons blessé ben Laden. Mais il s’est effectivement enfui. Si nous avions tué un grand nombre de civils, nos chances de mettre sur pied des élections en Afghanistan n’auraient jamais existé. C’était une décision diplomatique, et non politique, afin de pouvoir réunir ce pays. Nous savions que tuer ou capturer ben Laden était important. Mais se débarrasser d’Al-Qaïda et donner au pays un sentiment positif et nationaliste était aussi important...."

Osama capture unnecessary, US general says
The Sydney Morning Herald 22/11/03

"A senior US general said today that al Qa'eda mastermind Osama bin Laden had "taken himself out of the picture" and that his capture was not essential to winning the "war on terror"..."


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